the fiscal cliff is pieces of law that were signed into law two years ago for the tax policy, 18 months ago for the sequester. it's well and good to say that congress has been aware, but the president has been aware and the president up until the last 24 years hasn't gotten engaged and to tell you the truth, you don't feel his engagement on capitol hill, not like you do in some other areas where the president has gotten engaged and i served with president george bush, and when he got engaged, you knew there was presidential engagement occurring. >> congressman, the criticism of your party is well documented. let's talk about what's happening right now. what would you support? you have this fight over raising taxes on the riches americans. letting the bush era tax cuts expire for the richest americans. would you support as some are talking on the hill, the higher taxes for people who make 450,000 a year or more? the very richest earners in america and letting the middle class keep their tax cuts? if that came out of senate, would you support it? >> if that was all involved, no, the answe